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NAME YOUR FAVORITE OUTSIDER MUSICIANS

topic posted Tue, March 16, 2004 - 7:07 PM by  Holden S. 		Share/Save/Bookmark
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i might think of more later but for now i'll just say: Harry Partch.
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    Tue, March 16, 2004 - 8:29 PM
    BJ Snowden
    Jandek
    Wesley Willis
    Little Edie Beale
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      Wed, March 17, 2004 - 1:06 PM
      Lucia Pamela. I wish I could have met her!
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        Wed, March 17, 2004 - 1:33 PM
        Well, everybody knows The Shaggs but whats great about them is that when you talk about them you get to tell this whole story explaining who they are.
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          Wed, March 17, 2004 - 2:01 PM
          would it be egotistic of me to name myself?

          how about
          St. Dirt Elementary School Band
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            Wed, March 17, 2004 - 6:17 PM
            Invalid mentioned the Shaggs...i really enjoy them, & NOT in an ironic smartass way either. as for Lucia Pamela...i've yet to here her music but the descriptions in Chusid's book make me want to here some, & she was a charming lady personality-wise. okay, i'll name someone else...Adolf Wolfli. he was an outsider VISUAL artist but many of his drawings & paintings contain musical compositions, some of which have actually been interpreted, recorded & performed. years ago Graeme Revell put out one such record, entitled Necropolis, Amphibians & Reptiles. now that i've mentioned Wolfli, does anyone know whether anyone else has recorded his music?
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              Wed, March 17, 2004 - 9:13 PM
              Actually, I have really strong moments (more than moments, actually) where I truly appreciate B.J. Snowden's music in an irony-free state of mind. With all the super-mega-overproduced and disingenuous music flying around everywhere I go, it's nice to hear something that's painfully sincere and "DIY" to the extreme (without even the wink-wink hipness of "knowing" the recording is extremely DIY). It's the difference between dinner at McDonald's and breakfast in bed cooked by your 7-year-old nieces and nephews. It may not be the most polished meal ever prepared, but it's made with love and personality.
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                Wed, July 21, 2004 - 2:14 AM
                Yes, thats exactly right! The tragedy of comercial radio used to literally keep me up at nights. After playing a gig once and having two people in a huge crowd clap, I told my friend "there is no place for me" his reply was "Good! Keep that!"
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    Mon, April 18, 2005 - 12:33 PM
    In no particular order :

    Daniel Johnston
    Alvin Dahn
    The Shaggs
    The Space Lady
    Mar-Tie: The Avant Garde Grandpa
    Little Marcy
    R Stevie Moore
    BJ Snowden
    Shooby Taylor
    Legendary Stardust Cowboy
    Wild Man Fischer
    Rocking With Barbara
    Girls with Attitude! (GWA!)

    and hundreds of vanity pressings waiting to be picked up for a dollar with covers of rock standards performed in new and exciting ways.

    oh and... Lil Markie (after listening to 5 albums you either go insane or learn to bear the pain and build a threshold against it)

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      Mon, April 25, 2005 - 6:28 PM
      here's a few, I'll think of more later:

      wesley willis

      jandek

      gary wilson (I missed his show last week cuz I felt like shit - damn!)

      shaggs

      langley school kids (do they count? I know they weren't retarded like the kids of widney high, but still - their renditions of 70's tunes are pretty out there!)

      daniel johnston (was sketical at first, but that double cd juxtaposing cover versions with his original songs won me over last year)

      do Rodd Keith and John Trubee count?

      p.s. I remember seeing the space lady perform on haight street back in the late 80's/early 90's!
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        Tue, April 26, 2005 - 9:05 AM
        I love the Ledge, and was glad that David Bowie used his "I Took a Trip on a Gemini Spacecraft" on his "Heathen" album. I think of it as Bowie paying him back for the Stardust name.

        I also really like Gary Wilson, although I confess I haven't picked up the new record. And I also love Jandek and Daniel J. for flying the Texas freak flag. And Roky Erikson...what is it with us Texans?

        Regards, Virginia
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          Tue, May 3, 2005 - 5:44 PM
          here is a short list...

          1.) Carrion Commandos (Eugene, Or.)1982-1987
          2.) Five Starclemen (Lancaster, Ca.)1991-1998
          3.) Wild Man Fisher (still alive in Hollywood but reclusive)
          4.) Kid's of Whidney High
          5.) the Omlits (Fullerton, Ca.) 1980-1986
          6.) the Disposals (horrible all girl band from Redondo Beach, Ca.)
          7.) Rocketboy (San Pedro, Ca.) 1992-2000 (?)
          8.) Glass Fucker (????,Ca.) mystery tape man who leaves lots of tapes hidden at Goodwills and Salvation Armies (a prank, disturbed person, sincere diehard,....I don't know)
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    Fri, September 23, 2005 - 12:41 PM
    My favorite outsider musician is the one who cannot exist because he is so far outside that he cannot possibly play anything let lone record it. In fact he hasn't been born yet and if given a chance will not even ever exist in the first place.
    That "outsider artist" I will call,-----he that does not ever exist but might one day and then will quickly die before ever recording something that could've changed the lives of the twenty or so people who might've listened but never will.
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    Sun, June 4, 2006 - 9:40 PM
    not sure quite how to define 'outsider', but I'd place Yma Sumac firmly in the centre - amazing 8 octave voice, truly quirky semi-incan tunes, and a frequent personification of seductive and dangerous 'otherness' in 50's hollywood films (none of which I have seen yet, sadly).

    also, what do people think of ron geesin? he's mostly known for his collaborations with roger waters/pink floyd, but has anyone heared his early recordings? true genius in a total league of his own. apparently he's a university professor of something related to sound texture development these days, which doesn't surprise me, and has done all this work on interactive musical sculpture-type installations, like walk-through tube-instruments designed for autistic people or something. listening to his first recordings it is difficult to imagine any kind of audience for him, even in 60's britain, but his work was some of the first electronic studio-as-instrument experimentation, as well as being a real instrumental virtuoso and spoken word freak-out. true rogue musician, disconcertingly good and worryingly humorous.
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  • Ivan
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    Fri, February 23, 2007 - 6:24 PM
    Zoviet France
    Shub Niggurath (French, not Mexican)
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    • mete
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      Mon, March 19, 2007 - 2:09 PM
      FAVORITE! huh.

      Well I'm a Daniel Johnson fan too and he'd get that ranking, but speaking of rank...
      I believe Daniel, like myself, also enjoyed tunes (?) by Hasil "The Haze" Adkins.
      The Haze is dead but his words, describing his style, live forever...

      "I taught myself how to play and I change chords and beats whenever I think I should change", he says in the liner notes for the Rockabilly Psychosis and the Garage Disease compilation. "Like for instance, you hit down on your strings and count 1-2-3-4, then change to another chord, well, I don't play that way."

      A shift manager and I took delight in playing 'The Legendary Stardust Cowboy' at the original Whole Foods Market in Austin, Tx. way back when. The look on the customers faces were priceless!
      From this website dedicated to him...

      www.furious.com/PERFECT/le...cowboy.html

      ...I was in full agreement with this quote in particular.

      "When the Ledge goes mano a mano with a song, melody goes home with a bloody nose every time."

      I seem to recall a review mentioning the local town children throwing pennies at him..."really hard".

      Here's two YouTube vids from my newest favored outsider/ experimentalist musician
      Frankie Perrone/ Underwater Sleep Project...

      youtube.com/watch

      youtube.com/watch


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    Sat, June 23, 2007 - 10:54 AM
    I guess one of my favorites would be,also a Rodney Bingenheimer favorite:

    THE INFLATABLE BOY CLAMS (their song "SKELETON" is actually requested on
    KROQ-FM all during the year...not just Halloween)...go figure!

    IBC could have competed with The Shaggs....or Shonen Knife.
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